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Post  graeme on Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:52 am

morning all.
i will start with a big thanks to all the members that have helped with their advice so far. very much appricated (spelling)

my bike is gradually getting near the finish line.
what i,m asking for is advice on the fluids. What oil is right for the primary and gearbox?

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Post  chamberslane on Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:14 pm

I use ATF in the primary case and straight 40 grade in the gearbox.

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Post  graeme on Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:55 pm

Hi. Back again. Been to the shop for fluids.

1. Which type of atf? There's half a dozen.

2. Anyone else use ATFin primary? Staff member was horrified that atf was going into the engine. He was familiar with villiers, and not an 18 year old Halfords type.

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Post  kerabo on Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:14 pm

I would just use the cheapest. No fancy synthetics
Chaincase only
ATF is made for the conditions in a chaincase . Withstand hot conditions, Anti foam, No friction additive,
I would not think in its modern form would have been out back then.
Myself and several more use it

Ken
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Post  alan67 on Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:37 pm

Hi guys im a bit like the halfords guy , atf in a chain case seems a bit odd to me, am i right in saying you have a 8e engine? if so operating instruction manual states gearbox and chaincase sae 140 that stuff is very thick like glue, can any body come back with reason why use atf ? plus the fact it hard enough to keep the thick oils in these casings never mind the thin Alan
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Post  alan67 on Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:39 pm

looks like you beat me Ken
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Post  piston 197 on Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:04 pm

The clue is in the T of ATF i.e. transmission, the old 140 stuck your clutchplates together resulting in poor clutch engagement when setting off from cold, it is like a thin grease rather than oil
ATF is a modern fluid designed for transmission, will keep the clutch a lot cooler and will aid separatrion of the plates.
I personally ran it for year in Villiers powered off roaders in a lot harsher conditions that road work will throw up, with no issues
JH
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Post  alan67 on Fri Nov 17, 2017 6:38 pm

well you learn something every day i assume atf could be used in all chain cases as i have a triumph t21 witch is clunky going in gear from cold [ or is that blaspheme the triumph word on this forum ] lol!
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Post  chamberslane on Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:24 pm

Hi Allan, I have also got 2 Triumph 3TAs I have atf in both of them, no problems at all both have silky smooth gear changes. My advice give it a go.
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Post  graeme on Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:34 am

Thanks for the advice so far. I don't have an engine manual so don't know the quantity needed in the primary and for the gearbox. What does the book say please?

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Post  alan67 on Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:03 pm

Hi Graeme i am right in saying you have a 8e engine ? if so the instruction manual states 1/4 pint of oil in gear box this is 3 speed and 4 speed alike, but fill to mark on dip stick ,as for chain case pour in oil [ atf ] though top filler hole until it appears at bottom level hole manual do not state amount but it's less than gear box Alan
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