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Falcon wheel bearings

Post  pecon on Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:30 pm

Can anyone tell me what size the front wheel bearings are on the Falcon 74 please. I decided to move onto the wheels while waiting for the paint work to set and found that while the rear seem OK the front are grinding and notchy. Are there any sets available off the shelf or is it a case of looking for a bearing supplier to try to match them up?.

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Bearings

Post  piston 197 on Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:17 pm

Front hub bearings are 2 off Metric 6202 bearings, but suggest you buy 6202 2RS , these have rubber sealed pre greased bearings and will not leak into the brake drum if the felt seal fails

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Re: Falcon wheel bearings

Post  pecon on Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:36 pm

Thanks John that's a great help, I'll ring around after the weekend and see if they might be in stock locally.

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Post  piston 197 on Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:15 pm

Off the shelf items at any bearing stockist and 4 to 6 each

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Kestrel 66 front bearings

Post  bessybarnett on Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:35 pm

piston 197 wrote:Front hub bearings are 2 off Metric 6202 bearings, but suggest you buy 6202 2RS , these have rubber sealed pre greased bearings and will not leak into the brake drum if the felt seal fails

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Hi John,

Just a thought, as one of my cones is too badly damaged on the front hub bearing on my Kestrel 66 and, as you will know from a previous thread, I am having trouble sourcing a replacement, can you advise me whether rubber sealed pre greased bearings would be suitable for my Kestrel. If so would you know of the part numbers?

Thanks for any help with this.

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Kestrel bearings

Post  piston 197 on Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:38 pm

Sorry there is no direct replacement with correct inner and outer diameter sizes standard to suit the Kestrel, although it my be possible to find something with the correct i.d. that a specialist firm could grind down on the outer diameter to suit ??
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Re: Falcon wheel bearings

Post  bessybarnett on Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:47 pm

Thanks John, I will just have to keep looking.

I understand a cone from a C11 may be suitable. I will try at the Staffs Show at the weekend.

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cone from C11

Post  piston 197 on Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:04 pm

If you are referring to a BSA C11, I would be very surprised as the C11 has a through spindle ??, so any cones will have no thread up the middle ?, unless you are refering to the pre war model with the Girder forks ? again I would be surprised if they were the same as spindle is a coarse thread ?
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Re: Falcon wheel bearings

Post  bessybarnett on Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:14 pm

Thanks for your advice John.

Have fun on the FB stand at Stafford.

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Post  Bigjim on Sat Apr 15, 2017 8:50 pm

bessybarnett wrote:Thanks for your advice John.

Have fun on the FB stand at Stafford.

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send me the dimensions of the cones you need. My friend has a number of odd cones he got from a James dealer who closed in the 1980s
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Re: Falcon wheel bearings

Post  bessybarnett on Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:20 pm

Hi bigjim,

Thanks for your reply. I will post a photo with measurements tomorrow am.

Thanks again

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merlin cones

Post  stuart elkes on Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:24 pm

Hi if you come to the owners club stand I will bring what I think is a merlin spindle complete which is for sale Stuart Elkes

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Re: Falcon wheel bearings

Post  bessybarnett on Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:56 am

Hi Stuart.

I will be at the stand at around 10.30am on the Saturday. Look forward to seeing you. I will bring my Kestrel spindle.

Thanks for that.

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dimensions of cone required

Post  bessybarnett on Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:08 am

Hi bigjim,

Please see attached photo of my damaged cone with measurements.

I appreciate your help with this, I will also be on the look out at the Stafford Show.

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Falcon bearing removal

Post  pecon on Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:39 pm


I decided to make a start on removing the bearings and found that there is a cap on both sides of the hub but while they look like a press fit they are resisting all efforts to remove them. I'm fairly sure that they have never been removed since they left the factory in '57 so it could be a case of them being seized in place or could it be that are they threaded on, although there is no sign of any threads?.

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Seal caps

Post  piston 197 on Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:56 pm

They are just a press fit, if you use RS shielded bearings you will not require them anyway, if you hit the spindle on one end with a hide or copper mallet, you should remove spindle,bearing , cap and seal in one side, then use a drift from the other end to remove the other bearing seal and cap .
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Re: Falcon wheel bearings

Post  pecon on Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:39 pm

Thanks for that John, I did try tapping them out using a piece of timber on the shaft but all that happened was that the timber split. Now that I know that they are a press fit I will try again. My local bearing supplier has 6202 RS bearings at a reasonable 3.95 so I will pick them up tomorrow.

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