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Post  S.C_07 on Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:41 pm

Hi I overfilled the oil on my clutch on a 59 falcon 10E , after doing so the bike wouldn't start and there was no compression , could the overfill cause this problem . I drained the oil out , how else can I get rid of this no compression problem .
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Post  kerabo on Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:04 pm

Sounds a bit strange. Are you sure it's not now slipping instead of turning the engine? Try a spanner on the flywheel and see if it has compression. If you popped out a crank seal it may make a little difference but it's unlikely. If you got oil into the engine you would expect high compression or locking up.

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Post  S.C_07 on Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:07 pm

Ahh I see , it may be slipping the timing shaft sort of moves a little then doesn't move so I think you may be right it's probably slipping , I've got my self confused . Is there a way to stop this ?? How would I get rid of the oil where I over filled it ?
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Post  kerabo on Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:11 pm

I wouldn't expect overfilling to make the slip as bad as that. You said you had the clutch to bits? Have you assembled it correctly. Is it adjusted on the pushrods and cable?
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Post  S.C_07 on Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:17 pm

I believe I assembled it right , all plates and parts went back in the correct order , as to wether its adjusted correctly im unsure , how would I go about doing that ? Im only 16 my knowledge of engines isn't amazing 😂 So does the clutch slipping cause the engine to not start or turn over , whereas as previously it would start on a first kick . Sorry for all the questions , you've been amazing with all the help you've given me already so thank you 😂
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Post  piston 197 on Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:57 pm

There is a hole in the r/hand case near the clutch arm, you can put a screwdriver through this to adjust the clutch, in the rest position there should be about 1/8" slack movement on the clutch actuating arm where it protrudes from the gearbox
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Post  ancient cubs fan on Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:06 am

S.C_07 wrote:I believe I assembled it right , all plates and parts went back in the correct order , as to wether its adjusted correctly im unsure , how would I go about doing that ? Im only 16 my knowledge of engines isn't amazing 😂 So does the clutch slipping cause the engine to not start or turn over , whereas as previously it would start on a first kick . Sorry for all the questions , you've been amazing with all the help you've given me already so thank you 😂
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Yes, the kickstarter spins the engine through the clutch. After making sure the adjustment is right, I'd take the clutch cover off to see if the pressure plate is lifting evenly when you kick it, and make sure the springs are tight enough to let the clutch drive the motor (when kick starting)....ARH

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Post  kerabo on Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:30 am

Scott

Are you going to put this on the road and ride it eventually?

Not sure how the learner rules work now.

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Post  S.C_07 on Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:59 pm

Thank you I tried that and it seems to work perfeclty with a bit of adjustment .

Hi Ken , hopefully , its not far of being road worthy at the moment , just a few bits here and there to do with electricals then it should be near enough ready ( excluding paint ) . However as its technically a "200 cc " bike I believe to ride that you need and A2 licence for which you need to be 18 / 19 ( correct me if I'm wrong please I can never get these right ) so sadly I have a couple of years till I can LEGALLY ride it 😂 So I may end up giving to my brother or dad as a fun bike .
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Post  S.C_07 on Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:01 pm

Failing that I may sell it and move onto a cafe racer project dependant on time

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Post  kerabo on Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:05 pm

Stay with it Scott.

Pass your test and ride it

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Post  S.C_07 on Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:08 pm

Yeah seems like the best plan , I've put a lot into it , shame to get rid of it so soon

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