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Falcon identification

Post  Shadow1 on Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:57 am

Hello all

Have just done two exiting things; bought a 54 FB Falcon and joined the FB owners club.
I now have a few inevitable questions.

1) I wish to buy an owners manual and have a choice of two.
One is for a 53 / 54 67 and the other is for a 54 / 55 70.

What are these two no's, 67 and 70 referring to and how can I find out which no. I need?

2) Which bike magazine would you recommend to cover bikes of this age with features and fixes?

Thank you in anticipation for your help.

Brian
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Re: Falcon identification

Post  fulmar88 on Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:09 am

Brian, The 67 and 70 refer to the model numbers. Most FBs had a number after the name. Your frame number will confirm whether you have a Falcon 67 or a Falcon 70. It is just an identifier. Later Falcons were the 74, 81 and 87 for example. If you post the prefix letters, or the whole number, someone will tell you which model it is. On some models there is a letter at the end denoting a different from standard colour. Standard would be black for the 67 and 70. I'm not sure if it was ever offered in a different colour but if yes then I think it would be blue, and this would have a 'B' at the end of the frame number.

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Steve.
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Post  piston 197 on Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:21 am

If your frame No begins with a "U" then it is a 1954 model 67, made between Sept 1953 and Aug.1954, if it begins with a "V" then it is a Falcon 70 made between Sept. 1954 and Aug. 1955
as you can see both could be 1954 and they are a very different beast.
The Falcon 67 was offered in Black or option Azure blue, The Falcon 70 was black only.
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Falcon Identification

Post  Shadow1 on Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:48 am

Thanks for your replies.

I do not have the bike with me but have been given the frame no. as shown in the log book.

387A26625

There are no other letters shown.

I repeat this is as in the log book.

Thanks

Brian
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Post  piston 197 on Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:59 am

That is the engine No ! Not the frame No, knowing logbooks as I do they have probably entered the right details in the wrong place, bet you the frame no is recorded as the engine no ?

387A is a Villiers 8E 197cc engine as used in the Falcon 67

The Falcon 70 used an engine No beginning 070B , so most likely a Falcon 67 if the frame and engine No are a pair ?
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Falcon Identification

Post  Shadow1 on Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:45 pm

Thanks Steve and JH

From what you have said I am taking this to be a 67.

Will order a manual for years 53 / 54.

Once again thanks for the help.

Brian
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Post  piston 197 on Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:56 pm

You will need a manual with the letter "U" in the bottom right hand corner, be careful the 53/54 one does not refer to model numbers and not year ? There were 2 manuals listed for the bikes "hints and tips" which covered general maintenance and running instructions, and a "spare parts" manual giving explode diagrams and part numbers
Both are useful, but neither are a true workshop manual.
The best book is "the book of the francis Barnett" by J H Goddard this is a hard back workshop manual for all FB's written by the factory service manager, now out of print, but does turn up regularly on Ebay
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Post  Mitch70 on Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:51 pm

Hi, following on from the topic of ID and needing a manual, mine is a 1957 Falcon with a frame number of MC82375, how do I know which model of Falcon this is from the frame number please?

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Post  piston 197 on Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:32 am

Michelle, the frame number is stamped in on the l/hand side of the headstock, the number you give is the raised ,cast on, casting number M&B2375 that is on all FB Falcon 74 headstocks, for a 1957 Falcon 74 the frame No should begin YM******
You may need to remove some paint to see it clearly.
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