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Post  karl ed on Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:25 pm

hello I have  just acquired  my first   Francis  Barnett  so will be looking for  some  tips and advice on it ,  it is as far as I know  a 1958 falcon  in dark green ?  I pick it  up next week when I get my van back  from the  body shop ,
first  couple  of questions
1/ any one  know the colour name / ral no/ or b.s. no for  the  paint
2/ were these ever used  in the  civil defence role as in fire service or any thing like  that ?
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1958 Falcon 81?

Post  piston 197 on Thu May 01, 2014 6:23 am

1/ colour was Arden Green an ICI paint colour, original coding P030 NH77, this is an old paint code , that now means nothing, it was also used by Rover, it is available in a modern paint from RS Bike Paints, if you google them you will find their website and can look up your bike and it's paint
" as far as I know the Falcon 81 was not used as a fleet bike, although years ago I came across one in Red that had been used by Dorset Waterways for canal and waterways inspections and had their crest on the side panels, Other models were used by the Police, but have no reference to this model being used ?
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1958 Falcon 81?

Post  MoscowFlyer on Thu May 01, 2014 8:19 am

Having had a real good look at these bikes below, I believe they are Falcon 81's. When you zoom in on them, you can see the petrol filler cap is to one side, the front brake is on the offside, fitted with a cover plate, and looks like it could be five inch, also no exhaust showing on the offside. 1958, they have got to be 81's? Mike

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Post  ChrisTurner on Thu May 01, 2014 4:37 pm

Falcon 81s. As regards paint colour, I had my local paint supplier match up some existing green Falcon parts and came up with Mitsubishi Jupiter Green G64 Shade 13E. It means nothing to me but I bought it and after spraying my frame, it looks right to me it being a very dark bottle green, not the lighter green of some FBs. if you have a local paint shop go ask to see their paint swatch for the above to see if it looks right to you.
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thanks

Post  karl ed on Mon May 05, 2014 8:45 am

thanks for that I see that you have l number's after falcon ie falcon 74/81 etc what is the significance of that ?
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Post  Jack Clegg on Mon May 05, 2014 9:08 am

74 or 81 is the FB Model number. It helps when hunting parts.
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falcon i.d.

Post  piston 197 on Mon May 05, 2014 10:34 am

If it is a Falcon 74 it will have a frame No beginning WM ( 1956) or YM ( 1957) if it is a Falcon 81 it will begin ZN ( 1958) or AN ( 1959) The Falcon 74 uses the Villiers 8E engine ( usual start coding of engine No 070B) and the Falcon 81 uses the 10E engine (start coding of engine No 662B), being 1 1958 model it could be a late registered 74 or an early 81 ?
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thanks

Post  karl ed on Mon May 05, 2014 7:58 pm

had a quick look on the bike for frame no where do I find it ?
log book no is 86190
engine is a type 10E?
no 662B 4067
is there a recommended supplier of spares ?
many thanks for you help so far

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Re: hello first posting newby

Post  Kim on Mon May 05, 2014 9:17 pm

karl ed wrote:had  a quick look on the  bike for  frame  no  where do I find  it ?
log book no is 86190
engine  is a type 10E?
no 662B 4067
is there a recommended supplier of  spares ?
many thanks  for  you help so  far
Hi, You will find the frame number on the steering head (downtube where forks mount to frame)
JH (piston 197) is the club spares person and can usually help with parts. Otherwise a request on the forum usually turns up good advice on parts suppliers for particular parts.
Engine parts are usually sourced from http://villiersservices.co.uk/ although there are other suppliers. Nametab engineering is another good one.
Good luck with your bike.
Kim
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