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Post  kerabo on Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:21 pm

I was given a stack of old Motor Cycle books and this in the front cover of one. It dont say who it is but I wondered is anyone could name the rider. 1966 picture.



https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54646195/Trials%202.jpg

and some more Barnetts

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xwpsl8vvnelgsme/img179.jpg

And some with known riders

https://www.dropbox.com/s/241olzaf2sd984r/img180.jpg


https://www.dropbox.com/s/ilmibpyme6sszz4/img182.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/syf70c5lv0396fu/img184.jpg

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Post  piston 197 on Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:15 am

837ARW was one of the teams bikes ridden by Johnny Roberts, other team members include Jim Sandiford, Ian Williamson and Jacky Rees,but this picture was shown on a 1966 magazine when the AMC engine bikes would have been superseded by the Villiers powered units of works riders Mike Ransom ,Mick Andrews etc.
Looking at the rider on the bike,it looks a bit like Johnny Roberts and that is my guess, but it would not have been on a works supported ride at that time as the bike would have been 3 years out of date at that time
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Post  kerabo on Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:56 am

Well done John

Looking at these old books it seems the FB was a popular bike for trial riding
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Post  MoscowFlyer on Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:00 pm

I was reading an interesting article about George Fisher, he is in the bottom picture. While practising for the 1954 Scottish Six Days Trials, he damaged his forks on his bike MWK 499, to fix it they remove the forks from another machine MWK 498. This second machine was then put up for sale at J&R Alexander in Edinburgh, it was on sale for some considerable time, at a reduced price due to it's forks being removed. I've done a check on MWK 498 and it's still out there as a Francis Barnett. Mike


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still out there !

Post  piston 197 on Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:14 pm

Testament to how well these bikes were made, I know LWK 164 ( Olga Kevelos),LWK324 ( Arthur Shutt) and MHP470 (George Fisher) are still out there ( as they are in my garage)MHP469 is in Gloucestershire,MHP471( Peter Marr) is in Somerset, Mick Ransom still has his works Bike, Ray Peacocks bike is still out there and has been to a couple of AGM's, I had correspondence with the owner of MWK498 some time ago and it was up north somewhere , but I forget exactly where
There was also a works AMC engined bike at last years Telford off-road show, owned by a well known collector from the Midlands.
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Post  top brass on Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:40 pm

Ian Williamson is my cousin now living in Oxfordshire he was a great pal of Jim Sandiford the last time I saw Ian he was on a tv program trialing a MG sports car.

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Post  piston 197 on Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:00 pm

first time I met Ian was when he was researching the FB trials/works history, for a very informative article in Deryk wyldes off road review, later to be published in Ariel publishing's  "competition motor cycle reference library-volume 1" (ISSN 1368-5155)
31 pages of very informative commentary and pictures on the FB post war works trials teams as well as 200 odd pages from other contributors ( now sadly out of print)
I spent most of a very enjoyable  day in Ian's company, I have bumped into him a few times since and believe he was involved with the vintage motorsports  show at the agricultural centre at Stoneleigh
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Post  MoscowFlyer on Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:04 pm

I was telling you the story about MWK 498 being sold at J&R Alexander in Edinburgh, well if you look at the picture below, you will see that very shop in the background. Mike

http://www.stilltimecollection.co.uk/detail/5252-tpt-transport-bike-trial-test-scottish-scotland-6-six-days-francis-barnett-team-group-53-mc-quinn,-14-ad-stewart,-52-jw-morgan.html
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Post  MrTweedy on Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:11 pm

Great photo. Do you have any idea where in Edinburgh the shop was?

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Post  MoscowFlyer on Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:23 pm

Hi Matt, I've got no idea where it was, so I've just Googled it, see below looks like this could be it's a Ford dealership. Mike

http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/0_a_o/0_around_edinburgh_-_waverley_market_alexanders_motor_show_fords_1952_000-000-057-632_768.htm#01_brian_alexander
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Post  MrTweedy on Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:34 pm

After a bit of rooting around online, I'm fairly sure the loction of the shop is Semple Street in Edinburgh. Unfortunately, it's changed out of all recognition now so I'm unable to do a "now and then" shot of the same place.

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Post  willie wilson on Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:25 pm

hello,
alexanders ford , was at semple street, the buildings have all gone now , i will have a look at the weekend .
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Post  kerabo on Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:07 pm

willie wilson wrote:hello,
alexanders ford , was at semple street, the buildings have all gone now , i will have a look at the weekend .
cheers willie

Hi Willie

I thought you had left us. Nice to see you on here again. You got tired of Bowls?

Have a quick think about the Scotland FBOC tour.

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Post  willie wilson on Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:35 pm

hi ken
will still be playing the bowls, still capt, weba rep, match sec , or is it dogs body Laughing 
ok have you done your front fork bushs, and where did you get them from, as mine sound a bit rough from sitting still all this time,
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Fork bushes

Post  kerabo on Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:09 pm

I was at a show and a member who repairs farm machinery said he had some from a tractor that were the same size. He gave them to me. They are originally soldered on to the fork leg and as its oily and the original bushes are oil impregnated its very hard to solder. Think the best way is have a good fit and use a strong bush locktite.

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