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Post  tbird on Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:02 pm

Well done Kim

That sounds a good price, you have a bargain there hope you enjoy getting it up and running.

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Post  mike Sayer on Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:27 pm

Good news Kim, if i can be of any help, don`t hesitate to ask. Good luck.
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Post  Kim on Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:31 am

Thanks Mike and Graham.
Well the story gets better. Every panel seems straight. all parts seem to be there (except the tin panel JH spoke of and the cowling for the carb), all nuts and bolts are in labeled bag/containers . The bottom end seems ok with no real movement it shouldn't have. it has 2 barrels/pistons/heads. Although the pistons are possibly not useable Crying or Very sad . There is a parts gearbox and spare cases. There is a spare speedo/coil/kickstart/gear lever, exhaust nut, it even has a spare clutch basket with reasonable plates and other parts. New parts include 2 boxed sets of +20 hepolite rings and 1x each loose bottom and middle rings (unknown size), points, brand new rectifer, kickstart, gear lever, accel cable and what looks to be new set of handlebars. Very Happy
I have just brought a new 30+ piston (without rings) on ebay cheers (seemed too prophetic to pass up) so would be keen on swaping the 20+ rings for a set of 30+ (pay own freight sort of swap) or buy if required.
The guy was a little sad to see it go. Hes owned it since 78 and lugged it around the world with him with the obvious intention of restoring it one day.

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Post  tbird on Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:32 am

Kim
You have got a bargain with all the spares you could open up a shop.

You will have fun getting that up and running, keep us here informed of progress.

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Post  Kim on Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:47 am

I have noticed that one of the sets of ring that came with this deal has 3 rings the same. The box says 249cc 25T +.020 but the rings inside look all the same but in packets labeled top/middle/bottom..That is to say they all seem to be the same as the top ring in a normal set.
I am wondering if this set is for the scrambler 82 as the paperwork i have mentions the scrambler pistons don't have compression rings?
Seems a little unusual to me so i was hoping someone could enlighten me.
I will not be using them myself but all knowledge is good.
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Post  piston 197 on Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:53 am

Kim ,the clue lies in the box saying 25T ,the scrambles piston rings would say 25S,the rings are basically the same as 25T (and 25C),but the pegging arrangement is different.I guess the ring set you have just happens to be 3 rings the same as opposed to being correct and having a different top ring to the bottom two,JH.
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Post  Kim on Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:07 am

Thanks John, Normally i wouldn't argue but I orignally thought that myself until i noticed that the individual packets have the same kp number and the measurements are the same. I could understand someone putting the wrong rings in the packets but the sameness of the numbering and measurements on the packageing is confusing. (they all say KP.15849.m....2.5975" +.020 x 1/16 scratch They also have square ended gaps as opposed to the shaped gap of the original rings.

Quote from the official instruction book for the cruiser 80/84 ..."The pistons fitted to the competition machines do not have compression rings and the piston rings are entirely different from those used in the cruiser models."

I suppose the rings might have been put in the wrong box or possibly an old box was used for shipping.
or even more likely they are, as john says..a mistake.
Excuse my questioning but i just don't want to write them off as junk if they are in fact, a hard to find set. Or useful to someone.
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Post  piston 197 on Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:23 am

Kim,piston rings despatched today,yes agree with your thoughts i.e wrong box if marked 25T,they do sound as you say as 25C rings in a 25T box ,JH
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Post  Bill on Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:53 pm

Kim saw this on ebay and it might interest you Item number: 120965543402
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Post  Kim on Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:00 am

Thanks for that Bill. The paperwork that came with the bike had a similar advert included. It also came with a repo of the original instruction book/manual and reciepts for all sorts of parts. He even had the original british ownership paperwork. also original books for a plover and the 225 cruiser.
Also thanks John for the rings.

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Post  Kim on Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:04 am

John..The ring arrived safely Cool ..Thanks again.
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Post  piston 197 on Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:52 pm

Cheers Kim,if you get stuk i have pistons complete +030 and +040 (1 off of each) John H.
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